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  District Assemblies and Circuit Assemblies getting farther away from home

  by never a jw in

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  20 years ago the da's were in dodger stadium, 10-15 minute drive from home (east part of san fernando valley, los angeles area).

  then moved to long beach, 45 minute drive.

  now in 2014 they are moving to san diego, 2 1/2 hr drive.

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  Designs,

  My brother, a JW, just told me that their D.A.'s are going to San Diego now. He belongs to a Spanish circuit in the east part of the San Fernando Valley. I don't know where they are holding the assembly though. They were held for many years in Long Beach. I heard a story that the WT had traded consrruction labor for many years of use of the Sports Arena in Long Beach. I suppose, the benefits from that trade ran out. My wife is a JW. She will have to hear what I think about her spending even more money in gasoline, lodging and donation for a group of people who have lied to her, who are perfectly willing to let her die in a hospital, and would abandon her (shun) at the first attempt to disagree or complain.
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  District Assemblies and Circuit Assemblies getting farther away from home

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  20 years ago the da's were in dodger stadium, 10-15 minute drive from home (east part of san fernando valley, los angeles area).

  then moved to long beach, 45 minute drive.

  now in 2014 they are moving to san diego, 2 1/2 hr drive.

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  never a jw

  20 years ago the DA's were in Dodger Stadium, 10-15 minute drive from home (east part of San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles area). Then moved to Long Beach, 45 minute drive. Now in 2014 they are moving to San Diego, 2 1/2 hr drive. The distances to D.A.'s are getting longer.

  Same thing is happening to C.A.'s. The Watchtower owned a C.A. hall sitting in a very expensive piece of land that was close to home. They sold it many years ago (I am sure for many millions). Going to that hall was just 1/2 hour drive for my family. After the sale of that hall, my family has had to drive to the Norco circuit assembly hall, which is sitting on a cheap piece of land that may have cost less than a million, but it's 1 hr and 15 minute drive for my family.

  Oh well, my consolation is that my nephew has to drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco to attend his D.A. in portuguese. That is a six hour drive.

  The extra cost of gasoline and lodging in some cases far outweighs the savings of the WTS. Not to mention the huge increase in pollution resulting from the extra driving. I guess the WTS is just as responsible, if not more, for ruining the earth.

  Is the WT running out of money, or they are finding new ways to keep more at the expense of the rank and file and the planet.
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  New here, just wanted to say "Hello"

  by Goldiver in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all, it is nice to have a forum for former jw's and see i wasn't the only one out there having serious doubts.

  my parents got into it when i was about 4 years old.

  my family was part of the granville ny congregation.. my dad in time became an elder.

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  never a jw

  Welcome!!
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  The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
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  i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.

  do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.

  elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

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  Mistified, I believe is the July magazine (new light).

  Thanks Jetro. I wasn't too far off after all.
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  The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.

  do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.

  elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

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  mistified,

  Do you have the specific reference? I haven't heard about it
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  The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.

  do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.

  elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

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  The assyrian attack may have been a mixture of history and mythology from the Bible that the FDS is trying to use as prophecy that applies to them. They, the WT, may be preparing for the great internet apostate attack and the lawsuits regarding pedophiles in the midst of the WT. Right?

  I hope I don't get corrected by the great scholars at JWN. If I do, I am sure I will learn something.
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  The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.

  do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.

  elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

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  prblem addict.

  That certainly was this year. I will find it. There are two in the daily text. One about obedience, the other about research being not good. I have to find the exact quotes,
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  The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.

  do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.

  elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

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  I am trying to put together the worst of 2013. The first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too. Do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the WT?

  Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) The most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of “the Assyrian” is that of strengthening our faith in God and helping our brothers to do the same. (2) When “the Assyrian” attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that Jehovah will deliver us. (3) At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith. 11/15/13 WT page 20, parag 17
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  New here

  by winnie12 in

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  hey i'm new here, i've been reading up so much here and on other sites about tatt and it has really settled a nagging feeling of doubt within me.

  truly i have been lied to and have been trapped in this cult.

  i've been suffering with depression, anxiety, attempted suicide, hospitalization, anti depressants, loneliness all this while being in supposedly surrounded by "the happiest people" on earth.

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  never a jw

  Hey Winnie,

  Go to school and enjoy life.

  One of my best friends happens to be a JW too. He and I go hiking to the highest peaks in California quite often but never mix religion in our conversations. He has two daughters that I have known since they were about 12 and 13. They are about 30 now. The younger one decided one day to go to university, travel the world and marry a well educated non-JW. She is very succesful, fulfilled and happy. Her JW parents actually talk with a great deal of pride about her accomplishments, even though from time to time they show disapproval of her distancing from the ORG. My friend actually refused to attend her daughter's wedding about two years ago. However, about two weeks ago he sounded so proud of her daughter's strong personality and determination to pursue even more education and her will to make a difference teaching in a high school full of dropouts and scary teenagers. Her mom also speaks very proudly of how her daughter has traveled the world and is so smart and succesful. Both parents have little education and are JW's. You have an advantage. Your father supports you and he is not a JW. GO FOR IT!!!

  Be happy and educated.
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  33 percent of Americans reject evolution

  by Simon in

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  http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57616373-71/33-percent-of-americans-reject-evolution/.

  that seems to be a disturbingly high number for a western / educated / developed nation.. does this have anything at all to do with america slipping behind in the sciences?

  it seems hard to imagine they could not not be linked somehow.. no surprise that the jesus party (republicans) reject evolution the most.

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  Pretty amazing! I was disappointed, surprise and puzzled by that fact two years ago. The greeks (presocratics) 2,500 years ago were a lot smarter, knowledgeable and open minded than those superstitious 1/3 of America today. I am glad the other 2/3 of Americans are carrying the load to advance science and human knowledge even for the benefit of those superstitious people